Volume 39: Number 38
Wed, 21 Apr 2021
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:44:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Moshe Rabenu got rich from the shivrei luchos
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 12:47:35PM -0400, David Riceman via Avodah wrote:
> Once you construe shivrei luchos as a metaphor shouldn't you also construe
> wealth as a metaphor (Avos 4:1)?
But then what's the message? That the right way to prepare to recieve
Torah is to become happy with your lot? A lot shallower / obvious of a
message, no?
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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Message: 2
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:19:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Closed In vs Separated
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:55:54PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
>> Unqelus translates "tzaraas" as "segirus" or "segirusa".
>> "Tzarua" is "segir", etc...
>> Later in the parashah, he renders "nidah" as "richuqeih".
>> "Closed in" vs "distanced". Both causes of tum'ah.
> ArtScroll's "Onkelos" says this on Vayikra 13:2 -
>> Onkelos consistently refers to tzaraas as s'giru - literally,
>> confinement or closure - alluding to the obligation to confine the
>> afflicted one in certain cases, as stated below..
Wait one second... A nega on a person causes them to be sent michutz
lamachaneh. How do we define something by a feature that is only true
"in certain cases"?
> and on Vayikra 15:19 -
>> The Hebrew term niddah, as well as the Aramaic term richuk, mean
>> "separation" or "distancing." The period when a woman is a niddah is thus
>> called because during the time she is distanced from touching other people...
There is a difference between saying that the closure or distancing are
features of the halakhos of each, and saying that this is the defining
feature of the condition itself, the very word they should be called by.
If tzara'as is not just some tum'ah that causes one to be locked up
but defined by the locking up (assuming the above question is answered),
and nidah isn't just a kind of tum'ah that causes her to be distanced
but is defined by that distancing... What is "tum'ah" that they both have
in common?
...
> According to this, the nonkosher animals can impart two different kinds of
> tum'ah: Merely touching it is usually muttar, though it puts one into a
> halachic category which has various ritual restrictions. But ingesting it
> is always assur; it affects one's neshama in bad ways.
> Perhaps nidah and tzaraas parallel the above. Perhaps niddah is merely a
> ritual tum'ah, requiring only a certain physical distancing, whereas
> tzaraas is a spiritual tum'ah that has severe negative effects.
Well, the case of ben niddah indicates otherwise.
But I was wondering how this solves the problem to begin with. So, one
must stay away from spiritual tum'ah, but ritual tum'ah requires (in
some cases) locking up? Wouldn't it cause an obligation to stay away,
but with little damage?
The Seforno gives a different distinction, not helpful to answering
my question for similar reasons: He says that all tum'ah comes from
sin... Tzara'as comes from one's own sin, niddah -- from Chavah's.
But the Seforno's distinction could be the hashkafic basis for yours,
if yours holds up.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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Message: 3
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:43:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Is it permissible to listen to an acapella music
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:50:19PM +0000, Prof. L. Levine via Avodah wrote:
> From today's OU Kosher Halacha Yomis
> Q. Is it permissible to listen to an acapella music CD during sefira?
> A. Rav Belsky, zt'l was of the opinion that there is no difference
> between a professionally recorded acapella CD that sounds like music
> and a regular CD with musical instruments...
This doesn't really answer the question, though. It's one rav's pesaq,
and the reader's LOR may not hold like RYB.
But RMF (IM OC 1:166) speaks only of a ban on instrumental music.
The Be'eir Heitiv (493 s"q2) says the MA and Chavos Ya'ir hold that
riqud and mecholos are assur. Implying, music without such additions
would be okay.
Just a general reminder that Ask-the-Rabbi articles are nowhere near
as valuable as actually having a poseiq of one's own. "Asei lekha rav"!
Then there are shitos that permit listening to music when alone, or more
generally when it's not in the context of celebration. Like background
music in the car. Not directly relevent to a capella, but that is likely
when that CD is being listened to.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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Message: 4
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:44:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] tucking retzuot in belt
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 05:34:38AM +0000, Rich, Joel via Avodah wrote:
> I've noticed that some folks have their shel rosh retzuot wound around
> their belt once. Is this a minhag or a practicality or something else?
I thought it was practical: a way to make it much more likely the retzu'os
stay black side out.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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Message: 5
From: David Riceman
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:00:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Moshe Rabenu got rich from the shivrei luchos
The message is that it applies to spiritual goods as well as physical
goods. MR (RMR?) got luchos rishonos ? Torah ? only for the benefit of
klal yisroel. If they didn?t deserve he should have been willing to
continue without it. As indeed he was.
DR
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> On Apr 20, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Micha Berger <mi...@aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> ?On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 12:47:35PM -0400, David Riceman via Avodah wrote:
>> Once you construe shivrei luchos as a metaphor shouldn't you also construe
>> wealth as a metaphor (Avos 4:1)?
>
> But then what's the message? That the right way to prepare to recieve
> Torah is to become happy with your lot? A lot shallower / obvious of a
> message, no?
>
> Tir'u baTov!
> -Micha
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Message: 6
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:17:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] More on Practices of Mourning During Sefira
It seems from the first 3 se'ifim on the subject in the AhS, the
Crusades have much to do with the minhagim of mourning during the
Omer.
In 493:1 he mentions both tragedies.
In se'if 2 he says that all of Yisrael have been nohagim since the days
of the ge'onim not to get married during this time.
The only mention of music is in the context of a wedding that trumps this
ban because someone else may make the shidduch first if you wait. Or a
se'udas hareishus. But the ban on music is desribed as only including
riqudin umcholos, and all the more so with keli zemer.
So a capella would seemingly be okay altogether, and instrumental music
would be permitted during the omer when not partying.
Se'if 3 talks about haircuts, but "vekhei nahagu bimdinos eilu". No
implication it dates back to ge'onim. And indeed, this minhag was not
nispasheit to most outside of Ashkenaz. As though Ashkenazi lands took
on new practices after they went through the Crusades (and thus, after
the geonim).
Nor is it clear when the ban on music started. It's not listed in the
start of se'if 2 with the ge'onic ban on weddings, nor in se'if 3 with
the later ban on haircuts.
Rav Ovadiah holds that listening to musical instruments in general is
iffy any day of the year (see Gittin 7a), so at least during the omer
one shouldn't. BUT, since songs with instruments are permitted for a
se'udas mitzvah, he allows musical instruments at siyumim and other
permitted se'udos.
It may be that Sepharadim are more meiqil about instruments because not
playing them is more a Crusades commemoration than one of Talmidei R
Aqiva.
In any case, WRT the other thread, two more sources, one Ashkenazi, that
would seem to allow a capella music during the omer. (And the AhS would
also allow litening to instrumental music outside of a party setting. So,
a capella music when not at a party, doubly okay. No?)
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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http://www.aishdas.org/asp 3 weeks and 2 days in/toward the omer.
Author: Widen Your Tent Gevurah sheb'Netzach: How does my domination
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Message: 7
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:00:20 +0000
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Right to Privacy
>
> Similarly here... Why would we think it's Trachtenberg's decision to make?
> "Excuse me, Rav Shemu'el, can I take a picture to share with any of your
> talmidim who may be reluctant to get vaccinated? Or is this something you
> feel you need to do privately?" Seems simple and obvious enough
????-
Any different for a ?stam yid??
Kt
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Message: 8
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:09:33 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] emunah
My question -If I understood the speaker correctly he said that one must
have 100% emunah even though it's impossible to prove, versus saying that
by preponderance of evidence one believes, which to my understanding leaves
some element of doubt. I'd be curious to know what your take is on the
subject. I think it's really difficult for modern man to say anything with
100% certainty
My friend-A person should strive to have as much Emunah as possible. If
they are able to reach a level of certainty that's great. I don't think
that belief based on a preponderance of evidence makes someone a kofer even
if that leaves some element of doubt.
Thoughts?
KT
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Message: 9
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:06:35 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] Sanhedrin votes
Blog Commenter: At the time when we had a Sanhedrin, there were no disputes (at least ideally). The Sanhedrin votes and that's it
Me:Worthy of its own post - did they vote on specific cases or general
rules? how strong was their sense of Stare Decisis? What was the role of
the sanhedrin of the shevet and which cases went where?
Any thoughts?
KT
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