Volume 42: Number 55
Tue, 13 Aug 2024
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: Rabbi Meir G. Rabi
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 00:02:15 +1000
Subject: [Avodah] O'Brien's Quality Meat - Kol DePorish MeRubbah
R' Jay's post
Prompted the following reconstruction of his thought
Forgive me if I have sinned
an unlabeled box of meat falls off O'Brien's Quality Meat truck.
A Yid sees the box, has no idea where it came from and says, isn't this Kol
DePorish MeRubbah Porish?
He calls his rabbi to check.
He takes it home, whistling as he goes.
The next day he invites you to join him at his Thanksgiving BBQ
you go and he's telling the story about finding a box of meat, explaining
the Halacha of Kol DePorish MeRubbah Porish
You saw A box, probably this box, fall off O'Brien's truck.
ARE YOU PERMITTED TO EAT?
IF YOU DO NOT EAT ARE YOU AN APIKORES?
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Message: 2
From: Rabbi Meir G. Rabi
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:31:29 +1000
Subject: [Avodah] Mamzeirim Not an Issue - Eventually they are lost in
R' Jays post re Mamzeirim being lost in the population and not being an
issue of concern, prompted the following parallel consideration
In a published responsum, the former Chief Rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Shlomo
Goren, approves and encourages the commercial cultivation of herds of Ben
PeKuAh to provide kosher meat. [Terumat Hagoren 2:2]
Some Poskim, without offering any halachic sources, publish their
displeasure with this proposal. Rabbi Asher Weiss [Minchat Asher pekuah:47]
expresses his disapproval of the project, but argues at length against
Rabbi Wosner?s argument [who also disapproves, Shevet Halevi 8:178] that
Ben PeKuAh sidesteps the command to verify that the animals we eat are
kosher.
Rabbi Goren dismisses the only possible halachic criticism of Ben PeKuAh ?
that a hybrid Ben PeKuAh [a half-Ben PeKuAh ? only one parent is a Ben
PeKuAh] is not kosher and cannot be kosher even if ritually slaughtered.
According to a halachically unsubstantiated but generally accepted
assertion, [which Rabbi Goren also seems to accept] a hybrid Ben PeKuAh
will transmit its disqualified status to all its future progeny, no matter
how minute that component is, disqualifying them from being consumed as
kosher even if shechted.
Rabbi Goren dismisses the risk of unidentifiable, untraceable and
un-shechtable hybrids that can multiply, threatening corruption of the
entire population of ordinary animals.
Rabbi Goren seems to consider it unnecessary to explain why he dismisses
this concern.
It seems reasonable he is in agreement with R' Jays perspective re
Mamzeirim.
In a separate responsum, Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron [Binyan Av 4:39]
another former Chief Rabbi of Israel, supports Rabbi Goren?s position by
noting that there is undeniable evidence in the Gemara and Rishonim that
this was never even considered an issue and that in fact, herds of Benei
PeKuAh were cultivated without concern for any such disastrous consequence,
concluding that it is certain that Chazal did not object or even discourage
cultivating Ben PeKuAh herds.
Best,
Meir G. Rabi
0423 207 837
+61 423 207 837
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Message: 3
From: Arie Folger
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 07:44:38 +0200
Subject: Re: [Avodah] kedusha on Shabbos
RJRich asked:
> Anyone have a source as to why kedusha on Shabbos includes extra
> phrases not included in the weekday version? I always assumed it
> was the same reason that psukei dzimra is longer just because we
> have more time.
The reason is that on all special days we include extra words there,
sometimes multiple paragraphs; we call that peti'ha liqdusha. The most well
known text of this kind is ... Untaneh Toqef. Check you machzor and you
will see such texts are very common.
Originally, in Minhag EY, people were not allowed to recite the qedusha on
normal weekdays - Tosafot Sanhedrin 37 talks about that. There's even a
beautiful "ofan" piyut for Shabbat Rosh 'Hodesh where we mention what
angels recite qadosh, what angels recite barukh, but in contrast, states
the refrain, the congregation (of Jews) recites both qadosh and barukh
beshabatot uve'hodashim.
Thus it is not surprised that we continued the practice of beautifying the
qedusha on the special days.
--
Mit freundlichen Gr??en,
Yours sincerely,
Arie Folger
Visit my blog at http://rabbifolger.net/
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