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Volume 40: Number 47

Mon, 11 Jul 2022

• 1. Re: Emerging Psak (Akiva Miller)
• 2. Rav Schwab on A Jewish Outlook on Life (Prof. L. Levine)
• 3. Re: Emerging Psak (Micha Berger)
• 4. Tisha B'Av in the Midbar (Akiva Miller)

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R' Micha Berger wrote:
> Currently, the US turns to Israel for pesaq far more than we used to.

Ki miTzion tetze Torah, udvar Hashem miYrushalayim.

That this change is happening should not surprise us one iota.
That we are the ones privileged to *see* it happening should awe us to our
cores.

Akiva Miller
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The following is from pages 586-587 of Rav Schwab on Chumash.

In a beautiful parable written in Baltimore in 1954 titled "A Jewish Outlook on
Life," based on an early childhood memory, Rav Schwab writes:

Everything which life gives us-and life itself-is time-bound and
time-limited. Success, happiness, beauty, solace, and love arrive in
small packages, neatly packed and carefully weighed. And when we
have made sufficient use of them, the time is suddenly up-much too
quickly and much too early-and we are sent away, back home ... but
the gifts remain here.

Professor Yitzchok Levine
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On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 03:29:13PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
> Ki miTzion tetze Torah, udvar Hashem miYrushalayim.
> 
> That this change is happening should not surprise us one iota.
> That we are the ones privileged to *see* it happening should awe us to our
> cores.

I think you misunderstand that pasuq. I mean, I agree with your sentiment,
but this pasuq isn't a source for it.

Here's the full pasuq in Yashaiah (2:3 https://www.sefaria.org/Isaiah.2.3 ,
tr. mine:
    And many nations will come and say, "Left us go to Har Hashem, to
    the House of Elokei Yisrael. They He may educate us in His Paths and
    walk in his ways. Ki miTziyon..."

Note the repeated focus on the BHMQ, and the previous pasuq did nothing
but set that stage. Micha 4:2 is nearly identical (except for "goyim"
instead of "amim", calling to go up to Har Hashem) and the set-up in
pasuq 1 is "VeHayah be'acharis hayamim..."

This pasuq refer to Benei Noach coming to Israel to learn Devar Hashem
from the Jews. Not the teaching of Torah to Jews. So, we aren't seeing
these nevu'os happen yet.


Sidebar questions:

1- What was the role of Mikhah haNavi, given how many of his nevu'os were
in common with his contemporary, Yeshaiah?

2- What was the purpose of canonizing seifer Mikhah? The difference in
their messages can't simply be different audiences... They were saying
things different enough in content or implication ledoros for us to
need both books.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

-- 
Micha Berger                 I thank God for my handicaps, for, through them,
http://www.aishdas.org/asp   I have found myself, my work, and my God.
Author: Widen Your Tent                   - Helen Keller
- https://amzn.to/2JRxnDF

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For almost 40 years in the Midbar, people would dig their own graves on
Erev Tisha B'Av, go to sleep that night, and about 15000 fewer would wake
up in the morning. From the stories about 15 Av, it seems that the above
was meant quite literally, and it is not a poetic metaphor for something
else.

So I wonder: Over those several decades, Tisha B'Av surely fell on Shabbos
occasionally. Does anyone write about those years? Did they dig on Erev
Shabbos and die on Shabbos night? Or perhaps, did Hashem, in His amazing
kindness, delay Tisha B'Av until Sunday like we do?

Akiva Miller
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