Volume 39: Number 81
Mon, 20 Sep 2021
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: cantorwolberg
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 12:16:39 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] Is it a proper warning, or is it lashon hara?
>> He said, "That hechsher
>> does not really care if the meat is kosher or not."
Making a statement like that with no evidence, proof, documentation or anything else is wrong.
Anyone can make any accusation, but we have a system where there must be proof.
I think it is wrong to make an unsubstantiated claim.
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Message: 2
From: Michael Poppers
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:04:08 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] Machnisei Rachamim redux
RZL noted:
> I also came across an article that presents many more data points:
> https://www.beureihatefila.com/files/Machnisei_Rachamim_2.pdf
<https://www.beureihatefila.com/files/Machnisei_Rachamim_2.pdf>
> Zvi Lampel
Thanks! and I especially enjoyed the last section of the article ;-). To
the long list in Section II, may I add a latter portion
("viYhi ratzon...shekal hamal'achim...yavi'u sfilasi...") of the
*t'filas haSHaTZ* (e.g. see
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=44121&;st=&pgnum=50) prior to
Musaf on the Yamim Noraim.
All the best from
*Michael Poppers* * Elizabeth, NJ, USA
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Message: 3
From: Prof. L. Levine
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:52:48 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] What is the latest that one is permitted to eat on
From today's OU Halacha Yomis
Q. What is the latest that one is permitted to eat on erev Yom Kippur? May one continue eating right up until shkia (sunset)?
A. Although Yom Kippur is on the tenth day of the Hebrew month of Tishrei,
the Torah (Vayikra 23:32) writes that Yom Kippur should be observed
beginning the ninth of Tishrei towards evening. From this, the Talmud (Yoma
81b) infers that there is a mitzvah to add to the fast of Yom Kippur while
it is still day time. Although Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 608:1) writes
that there is no set amount of time that one is required to add, Mishnah
Berurah (Bi?ur Halachah 261, s.v. eizeh) recommends that one begin the fast
at least 13.5 minutes prior to sunset.
YL
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Message: 4
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:18:30 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] free will
Bava Batra 164b quotes R'Sheshet as saying there are three sins "ein adam nitzol mehen bchol yom." Sounds like free will can't overcome?
Gct
Joel Richjr
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Message: 5
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:34:22 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] praying for one to die
Praying for one in excruciating pain to die has some halachic underpinning.
Others suggest one simply pray for HKB"H to do what's best for the
individual. Why isn't this what we should pray for in any situation?
GCT
Joel Rich
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Message: 6
From: Prof. L. Levine
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:52:01 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] When Was the Zohar Written
R. Avraham Yaari in his sefer Toldos Chag Simchas Torah comes to some
interesting conclusions about when the Zohar was actually written. His
conclusions are based on when the name Simchas Torah was first used to
designate the second day of Shemini Atzeres. See
http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/zohar_yaari.pdf
YL
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Message: 7
From: Akiva Miller
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:24:53 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] No apologies, just a kiss
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I read an interesting article over Yom Kippur. Link:
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/no-apologies-just-a-kiss/
A main point of the article is that the idea of people apologizing to one
another, or forgiving one another, seems to be almost totally absent from
Tanach. If you want to challenge this, or if you want to see why I
qualified it with the word "almost", please read the article first. I'd
like to hear your comments.
Here's the part that you DO NOT need the article for: He claims, and I
verified it in my concordance, that the root mem-ches-lamed - mechilah,
forgiveness - does not appear anywhere in Tanach.
A near-synonym would be samech-lamed-ches, selichah. According to my
concordance, this appears in Tanach 46 times as a verb, and 3 as a noun -
far fewer than I would have imagined. I didn't verify every single one, but
from a cursory look, it seems that in all cases, it is Hashem Who does this
kind of forgiveness. Not people.
So my questions to the chevra are:
(1) From where did we get the word "mochel", linguistically?
(2) From where did we get the *concept* of apology or forgiveness, among
people? If I hurt you in some way, of course I might be concerned that you
will get back at me somehow. But above and beyond that, even if there is no
fear of retribution, halacha insists that I must still apologize to you,
and I still need your forgiveness. Where does this come from? Are there any
stories in Tanach about such situations? (Note that the linked article
mentions some possible stories, including Yosef and his brother, Yaakov and
Esav, David and Avshalom. So if you want to cite those, please first look
to see what the article says.)
Akiva Miller
Irrelevant side point: I thought it might be helpful to see how "apologize"
is rendered in Hebrew. Two different dictionaries suggested "l'hitnatzel".
This word sounded to me like a made-up invention for Modern Hebrew, but it
actually appears in Shemos 33:6. On the other hand, whatever it might mean
there, it does *not* mean to apologize.
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