Volume 37: Number 86
Mon, 04 Nov 2019
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: Zev Sero
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 01:02:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] parnassa segula
On 29/10/19 7:46 pm, Rich, Joel via Avodah wrote:
> A caterer recently told me that a segula for parnassa is to wrap
> leftover bread separately for disposal. Anyone know the source (I
> couldn?t find it) although I?m guessing it?s based on Chulin 105b
> (getting rid of even crumbs directly can cause poverty ? at least in
> certain cases).
It is indeed based on that.
> So should all bread (food?) be treated like tashmishei
> mitzvah for disposal? Is bread different from other foods (and why?) [Is
> kzayit a dividing line (and why)?]
Bread is different, because the gemara specifies bread, and yes, crumbs
smaller than a kezayit are beteilim and may be thrown out. AIUI one may
deliberately break up a large piece into pieces smaller than a kezayit
in order to throw them out.
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Message: 2
From: Micha Berger
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 11:49:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] parnassa segula
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 11:46:14PM +0000, Rich, Joel via Avodah wrote:
> A caterer recently told me that a segula for parnassa is to wrap
> leftover bread separately for disposal. Anyone know the source (I
> couldn't find it) although I'm guessing it's based on Chulin 105b
> (getting rid of even crumbs directly can cause poverty - at least in
> certain cases)....
The AhS OC 180:4 says that the worry about crumbs had to do with the
Roman shulchan, which was a small one-person thing. And if you permitted
the staff to take the table out without gathering the crumbs, they would
likely do so even with bigger-than-kezayis pieces. (He even mentions a
discussion in the gemara that allows hiring an am ha'aretz as a shamah.)
But we today don't take the table out when not eating. (Which is why
we need a ke'ara to remove or cover and then restore, as appropriate,
at the seder.)
The AhS says the problem is that people who wash before bread will
disgracefully treat the bread on the floor from previous meals.
The MB s"q 10 records a chumerah of not throwing out crumbs that total
a kezayis. And, in accordance with the AhS's description of the motive,
warns you not to walk on any bread crumbs.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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http://www.aishdas.org/asp he was overcome with a spirit of foolishness.
Author: Widen Your Tent Today, we don't do a mitzvah unless we receive
- https://amzn.to/2JRxnDF a spirit of purity. - Rav Yisrael Salanter
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