Volume 37: Number 79
Tue, 08 Oct 2019
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: Rich, Joel
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 01:49:53 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] Tu B'Av
A thought for Tu B'AV: R'SBG (taanit 30b) designates the two most yamim
tovim (holidays) Yom Kippur and Tu B'av. While the gemara lists a number of
events which occurred on Tu B'av, I've always been partial to Yom Tvar
Hamaagal (the day they stopped cutting wood for the wood pile). Initially I
favored it as a paradigm for priority juggling (going back to Torah
learning when your job is done), but it occurred to me that the pairing
with Yom Kippur is exquisite - Yom Kippur being representative of the short
spurt/high profile avodat Hashem while Tu B'av represents the ongoing low
profile diligent avodah of daily life. We need both!
GCT
Joel Rich
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Message: 2
From: Jay F. Shachter
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 16:44:52 +0000 (WET DST)
Subject: [Avodah] With One Possible Exception
>
> In the Torah, you will not find a "she-" prefix. HQBH uses "asher".
>
With one possible exception: "bshaggam", which we will be reading in a
few weeks.
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Message: 3
From: Micha Berger
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 18:57:20 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] With One Possible Exception
On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 04:44:52PM +0000, Jay F. Shachter via Avodah wrote:
>> In the Torah, you will not find a "she-" prefix. HQBH uses "asher".
> With one possible exception: "bshaggam", which we will be reading in a
> few weeks.
I know Rashi says it's like "beshegam" with a segol, and then explains
it as "bishvil shegam". And maybe the Torah contracts "asher" only
when sandwitched after a be-? It would explain the uniqueness.
But I find Ibn Ezra's comparison to the shin in shekhakha (in "ashrei
ha'am shekakha lo") more compelling, and the Ramban did too.
The Netziv has the shin as part of the shoresh, as in "mishagmaso".
Etc...
As RJFS writes, it's "one *possible* exception".
GCT!
-Micha
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Message: 4
From: Zev Sero
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 01:13:18 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] Powerful piyut
From the Sefaradi machzor for the first day of Rosh Hashana:
https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/Song/Pages/Song.aspx?SongID=298#2,20,508,69
It's powerful stuff. Worth reading even if it's not in our machzor. The
author, Yitzchak ibn Mar Shaul, was a talmid of Dunash ben Labrat, and
the teacher of Yonah ibn Janach.
[PS: I'm not sure whether this belongs on Avodah or Areivim]
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Zev Sero A prosperous and healthy 5780 to all
z...@sero.name Seek Jerusalem's peace; may all who love you prosper
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Message: 5
From: Prof. L. Levine
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 18:37:39 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] Pie Crusts, Pas Paltur, and the Aseres Yemei Teshuva
From https://ohr.edu/this_week/insights_into_halacha/4893
> We know that Pas Paltur, "Baker's Bread," is actually permitted year
> round. Yet, During the Aseres Yemei Teshuvah one should ensure that all
> one's bread products are strictly Pas Yisrael. But what do these terms
> mean? And why should we be stringent with this, of all halachos, and
> why specifically now? And what about Shabbos?
> Some authorities, including the Rema,[8] maintain that Chazal'shetter
> of Pas Paltur applies in all cases, even when Pas Yisrael is readily
> available. However, many decisors, including the ShulchanAruch and
> the Shach,[9] argue that this hetter is only applicable if one cannot
> purchase Pas Yisrael of similar type, quality or price;[10] and stress
> that one should otherwise strive to obtain Pas Yisrael exclusively.
See the above URL for more.
YL
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Message: 6
From: Micha Berger
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 19:50:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Pie Crusts, Pas Paltur, and the Aseres Yemei
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 06:37:39PM +0000, Prof. L. Levine via Avodah wrote:
> From https://ohr.edu/this_week/insights_into_halacha/4893
>> Some authorities, including the Rema,[8] maintain that Chazal'shetter
>> of Pas Paltur applies in all cases, even when Pas Yisrael is readily
>> available. However, many decisors, including the ShulchanAruch and
>> the Shach,[9] argue that this hetter is only applicable if one cannot
>> purchase Pas Yisrael of similar type, quality or price;[10] and stress
>> that one should otherwise strive to obtain Pas Yisrael exclusively.
So that while the Yerushalmi's case of eating chullin betaharah is more
bein adam lamaqom...
When it comes to pas palter during Aseres Yemei Teshuvah, are saying that
for AYT we make a point of supporting other Jews, even if our bread may
be a little pricier or not as tasty as the rest of the year. More a
bein adam lachaveiro practice.
GCT!
-Micha
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Message: 7
From: Simon Montagu
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:27:05 +0300
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Powerful piyut
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:54 PM Zev Sero via Avodah <avo...@lists.aishdas.org>
wrote:
> From the Sefaradi machzor for the first day of Rosh Hashana:
> https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/Song/Pages/Song.aspx?SongID=298#2,20,508,69
>
> It's powerful stuff. Worth reading even if it's not in our machzor. The
> author, Yitzchak ibn Mar Shaul, was a talmid of Dunash ben Labrat, and
> the teacher of Yonah ibn Janach.
Powerful indeed, one of the high points of the RH liturgy. By the way, the
London S&P mahzor and the Keter Shem Tov, both attribute it to R. Yehuda
Halevi.
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