Avodah Mailing List

Volume 04 : Number 023

Sunday, October 3 1999

• Fw: (fwd)
• Simchat Torah
• MOADAY KADSHECHA

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:10:35 +0200
From: Bonchek Family <msbonch@mscc.huji.ac.il>
To: Reuven Miller <millerr@mail.biu.ac.il>
Subject: Fw:=20


-----Original Message-----
From: Bonchek Family <msbonch@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il>
To: Moshe Poupko <mopo@netvision.net.il>
Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:09 AM
Subject: Fw:


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: GOLD <goldsb@netvision.net.il>
>To: Bonchek Family <msbonch@mscc.huji.ac.il>; yirmi gold
><ynrgold@internet-zahav.net>; daphna yehuda goldreich
><goldreich@bezeq.nmt.co.il>; yehudah goldreich <yehudahg@tadirantele.com>;
>debbie markowiyz <debbie@actcom.co.il>; donna moncharsh
<moncharsh@usa.net>;
>Dovid Rubinoff <rubinoff@cpol.com>; bonny silver <hab1@interlog.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:28 PM
>Subject: Fw:
>
>
>>
>>
>>----------
>>From: Motti Adler <adler_m@internet-zahav.net>
>>To: Undisclosed.Recipients@loger.inter.net.il
>>Subject: Fw:
>>Date: =E9=E5=ED =E7=EE=E9=F9=E9 30 =F1=F4=E8=EE=E1=F8 1999 10:55
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: akiva <la258@popeye.cc.biu.ac.il>
>>To: adler_m@inter.net.il <adler_m@inter.net.il>
>>Date: eai cieue 30 noeiao 1999 03:03
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > "My daughter and I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe i=
n
>>>> Dallas
>>>> >  and decided to have a small dessert.
>>>> >  Because both of us are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the
>>>> > "Neiman-Marcus Cookie."
>>>> >  (EDITORIAL COMMENT: Neiman's is a VERY EXPENSIVE department store,
>>>often
>>>> >  referred to as "Needless Mark-up").
>>>> >  It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe
and
>>>the
>>>> >  waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not." "Well," I said,
>>>> "would
>>>> >  you let me buy the recipe?"
>>>> >  With a cute smile, she said, "Yes."
>>>> >  I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty, it's a great
>>>deal!"
>>>> >  I said with approval, "Just add it to my tab."
>>>> >  Thirty days later, I received my statement from Neiman-Marcus and i=
t
>>>was
>>>> >  $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for
>>two
>>>> >  salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of
>>the
>>>> >  statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe $250.00."
>>>> >  That's outrageous!
>>>> >  I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said
it
>>>was
>>>> >  "two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty
>>>dollars"
>>>> by
>>>> >  any POSSIBLE interpretation of the phrase.
>>>> >  Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would NOT refund my money,
>>because
>>>> >  according to them... "what the waitress told you is not our problem=
=2E
>>>You
>>>> >  have already seen the recipe we absolutely will not refund your
money
>>>at
>>>> >  this point." I explained to her the criminal statutes that govern
>>fraud
>>>> in
>>>> >  Texas, I threatened to report them to the Better Business Bureau an=
d
>>>the
>>>> >  State's Attorney General for engaging in fraud. I was basically
told,
>>>"Do
>>>> >  what you want, we don't give a darn, and we're not refunding your
>>>money."
>>>> >  I waited, thinking of how I could get even, or even try and get any
>>of
>>>> the
>>>> >  money back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm
>>>going
>>>> to
>>>> >  have $250.00 worth of fun."
>>>> >  I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie lover in
>>the
>>>> >  United States with an e-mail address has a $250.00 cookie recipe
from
>>>> >  Neiman-Marcus ... for free.   She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do
>>>this."
>>>> >  I said, "Well, you should have thought of that before you ripped me
>>>off,"
>>>> > and slammed down the phone on her.
>>>> >  So, here it is!!! Please, pass it on to EVERYONE you can possibly
>>think
>>>> > of-it's paid for!
>>>> > Neiman-Marcus $250 Chocolate Chip Cookie Recipe:
>>>> >  (Recipe may be halved):
>>>> >  2 cups butter
>>>> >  4 cups flour
>>>> >  2 tsp. Soda
>>>> >  2 cups sugar
>>>> >  5 cups blended oatmeal
>>>> >  24 oz. chocolate chips
>>>> >  2 cups brown sugar
>>>> >  1 tsp. Salt
>>>> >  1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated)
>>>> >  4 eggs
>>>> >  2 tsp. baking powder
>>>> >  2 tsp. Vanilla
>>>> > 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice).
>>>> >  Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder
>>>> > Cream the butter and both sugars
>>>> > Add eggs and vanilla; mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt
>>>> > baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips,
>>>> >  Hershey Bar and nuts.
>>>> >  Roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet.
>>>> >  Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees
>>>> > Makes 112 cookies
>>>> > Enjoy cooking the most expensive cookie in the world -FREE!"
>>>> >
>>>> > THIS IS TRUE-PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND PLEASE SEND THIS TO
>>>EVERY
>>>> > PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>

Whereas the shul (Young Israel of East Talpiot) went from 07:30 til
13:45, our "geriatric" VATIKIN minyan started at 06:00 and finished at
09:30. What's especially upsetting (in Israel) is that Simchat Torah *is*
also Shmini Atzeret: you have 4 hours of wild dancing and right after Kriyat
haTorah is Yizkor.

Some baalebatim rebelled and started a special vatikin minyan on Simchat
Torah.

Josh

Ken Miller's rule is correct (I am uncertain as to where the rule
is allegedly violated if at all in our davening)

Some sources Ken? (By all means correct the siddur if they
are wrong)
Russell 
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